Charlie Rose: interviews Nicholas Thompson (CEO of The Atlantic) on AI, Ambition …. The Running Ground

Nicholas Thompson has been one of the definers of the digital revolution in all of its impact on our life. After graduating from Stanford and engaging in freelance writing, he became editor of NewYorker.com. Later, he became Editor-in-Chief of Wired as the power of social media became more pervasive. Now he is the CEO of The Atlantic as artificial intelligence becomes more involved in our daily life.

Thompson has written two books. The first was The Hawk and the Dove about Paul Nitze, the hawk, and George Kennan, the dove. Nitze was Thompson’s maternal grandfather.

The second, published in 2025, is The Running Ground about Thompson’s life as a serious and successful marathon runner. It is much more than a book about running. It is about his cancer struggle and the emotional story of his relationship to his father. Thompson makes running central to his identity and attitudes about competition, fear, ambition, and endurance. Nicholas Thompson has achieved great success, but in The Running Ground uses his success in running to explore not only the joy of victory but also its cost.

As we learn more about the progress in artificial intelligence, it is a moment to consider its value and its risk.

We will talk about many things with Nicholas Thompson, including running as a metaphor for life, his relationship with his father, the digital revolution, social media, and the impact of artificial intelligence on all of us.

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Axios: The Rattled Generation

The Rattled Generation
 
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This column, which got a sneak peek over the weekend in Jim’s C-Suite newsletter, is our long look at America’s two-decade road to today’s mood. Tomorrow, we’ll unfurl Jim’s idea to help CEOs and other leaders navigate this moment.

Click here to watch a “Behind the Curtain” video of Jim and me discussing how we got here — and what’s next.

We’re living through the most disorienting societal moment since World War II. Almost nobody in a position of power is explaining why, or what to do about it.

This is so much bigger than politics. It touches our jobs, our companies, our communities and our realities.

Why it matters: By most objective measures, it’s an extraordinary time to be alive. Americans are wealthier, safer and longer-lived than at any earlier point in history. U.S. total wealth has soared. Violent crime sank to a 20-year low and is still falling. Life expectancy just hit 79 years — the highest in American history. The country produces more energy than ever after four straight record years.

And yet: University of Michigan consumer sentiment just hit its lowest reading in a half-century. Gallup finds most people think things will only get worse. Trust in every major institution — government, media, organized religion, higher education, science — is at or near record lows, both Gallup and the Edelman Trust Barometer find.

The gap between reality and feeling is the story of our era. A three-part shock helps tell it:

Social media’s rise.

The chaos of COVID.

The rise of AI, political extremism and information bubbles in the aftermath of both.

This produced a perpetually Rattled Generation, one too unsteady and uncertain to believe things are truly good or getting better. That’s new for a typically optimistic, can-do society.

It’s hard to see this changing anytime soon for one big reason: For the first time, no one — even us, sometimes — knows what to believe or who to trust. Our brains are now constantly calculating: Is this AI? Is it a bot? Can I trust this, share this or act on it?

Only by making sense of how we got here can we begin to fix it:

Shock 1: The Social Era

We trace the inflection to 2007, the year we helped launch Politico. The same month, Apple unleashed the iPhone. Twitter was a growing infant. Facebook crossed 50 million users. In roughly 18 months, the infrastructure for an algorithmically amplified social life fell into place.

Suddenly, anyone, anywhere, anytime could say anything on a public platform for free at scale and watch as others engage or enrage.

What followed wasn’t a coincidence. Anxiety, loneliness and institutional distrust rose in near-perfect parallel with smartphone penetration and screen time. It’s a correlation so consistent across age groups, income levels and democracies that we strain to call it anything but causation.

The institutions made it easy. Church sex abuse scandals. Media blunders. The 2008–09 financial crisis and its unpunished architects. Iraq WMD claims. Academic failures. Epstein.

Each, on its own, would have been a generational wound. Together, they landed one after another on people already disoriented by the speed of technological change. Citizens trusted institutions until those institutions failed them over and over, in public and up close. Once broken, that trust never reset.

The result: People didn’t abandon community. They migrated it, both closer to home and closer to their screens. Local leaders. Their own employer. People they know in person. Their phone.

Shock 2: COVID

Just as the country was trying to get its footing after the social media gut punch, COVID hit. Its effects went beyond a public health crisis, building an isolation and distrust machine by severing the in-person bonds holding people together. Churches closed. Local businesses shuttered. Offices emptied. Youth sports stopped. The very refuges people retreated to after their trust in big institutions collapsed were gone overnight.

For millions of people, COVID stripped away the coping mechanisms they’d built to survive the first decade of digital disruption. It produced in our young people what psychologist Jonathan Haidt called the Anxious Generation. But the problems were hardly contained to one age group. They hit everyone.And we never really recovered. We got vaccines and reopenings. We did not get a restoration of the social fabric. Loneliness was classified by the U.S. surgeon general as a public health epidemic. The share of Americans who said they had no close friends quadrupled from 1990 to 2021. Young men, in particular, have retreated from nearly every traditional institution — civic, religious, educational, relational.⬇️ Column continues below.
    
 
 
2. 🫨 Shock 3: The aftermath
 
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As if social media and COVID weren’t enough, everyone got smacked with three once-in-a-generation tectonic changes — all at once, and all worse since COVID.

Politics grew more omnipresent and mean. Terminally online politicians played to terminally online audiences, with algorithms egging everyone on. The rest got stuck in this feedback loop, which makes people seem nuttier and more hateful than most are.

AI exploded across screens and work. Everything started moving faster everywhere — how and what you learn, how you work and how you get and share information. All have changed, and keep changing. Our species isn’t wired to evolve at this velocity.

People flocked to smaller and smaller information bubbles based on their age, politics and jobs. Suddenly, we had infinite “realities” instead of a shared one. Now, two people sitting next to each other on a plane likely get their “news” on platforms the other person has never visited and trust people the other person never heard of. Same plane. Adjacent seats. Two different worlds.

Short of hiding in the woods without the internet, all of this was unavoidable for all of us, all the time.

The result of this 20-year daisy chain of events: a public with less hope, less trust, fewer friends and fewer people to look up to for help.🔮 

What comes next: This is hard to read, much less make sense of. But it also provides a basis to think through where we go from here. It might not be the reality we want, but it’s the one we’ve got. You only change it by reverse-engineering it to spot the glitches and patterns and cures.

We clearly need to restore trust in some binding leaders and institutions, lift competent people above the noisy ones, ease people through the AI transformation, find more common ground and common truth, and shift attention to what works, not just what sucks.

The bottom line: The repair won’t come from politicians or media or brighter economic data. It’ll come from government, religious institutions, communities, schools, parents, and business repairing the small threads that weave a complicated country together.

We’ll end on the happy note we flicked at up top: We’re actually in exponentially better shape than people think, and than our rival nations. America’s advantages are clear and real. We just need people to see this clearly again, and build back and up from there.📱 Watch/share our video … Share this column.Tell us about your experience: jim@axios.commike@axios.com.📈 If you’re a CEO or on a CEO’s team: Ask to join Jim’s new weekly Axios C-Suite newsletter.
    

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Shift: Today, we’re launching shift. We’re starting by cleaning your apartment in New York, for FREE. Comment: Data is the new gold!!!

The Rundown: German startup MicroAGI’s Shift app just opened a free home-cleaning service in New York City that records its cleaners through head-mounted cameras, trading chores for first-person data to both sell to AI labs and use in its own AI research.
The details:
A vetted cleaner shows up wearing a camera that co-founder Bercan Kilic calls a “magic hat,” filming the roughly two-hour job point-of-view style.Despite covering the cost of the cleaning, the human footage is worth more to robot makers for training, letting Shift cover the bill and still profit.Shift’s site claims to already pay people across the world $20 an hour to film everyday chores, with $5M+ paid out in Q1 across a variety of tasks.GM Harry Kilberg said the launch drew “thousands and thousands of bookings,” with New York first and London, Munich, and Zurich next.
Why it matters: As we’ve seen with DoorDash paying couriers to capture task data, the next AI dataset is coming from ordinary human work instead of the internet. Shift pushes that model deeper into the home, where people are both the customers getting free service and the workforce teaching robots how to replace pieces of the job.
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Tech Whistleblower: You Only Have 3 Years left before … 2027 Is Too Late. AI Expert Mo Gawdat returns to The Diary Of A CEO to reveal why AGI has already arrived, why 30% of jobs will disappear by 2027, and why the most dangerous thing about AI isn’t the technology – it’s the people in charge of it. 

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AI Expert Mo Gawdat returns to The Diary Of A CEO to reveal why AGI has already arrived, why 30% of jobs will disappear by 2027, and why the most dangerous thing about AI isn’t the technology – it’s the people in charge of it. Mo Gawdat is the former Chief Business Officer at Google X, founder of One Billion Happy, and co-founder of Emma.Love. He is a 4x international bestselling author,

and his upcoming book ‘Alive: A Human’s Guide to Living in the World of AI’, will be released in October 2026. He explains:

◾How AI can give you a 400-point IQ boost, and why most people are wasting it

◾ Why Mo actually wants a machine smarter than all of humanity to take control

◾Why Sam Altman said AI will “likely end humanity”, and what he chose to do next

◾Why capitalism breaks when AI replaces the workers who buy the things we make

◾Why AI unemployment could trigger civil unrest before governments are ready for it

0:00 Intro 2:29 Why Mo Warned About AI Before Anyone Else 5:26 Can AI Be a Net Positive for Humanity? 8:56 Massive Job Disruption Worldwide 15:28 Will AI Cost Savings Create New Jobs? 16:38 What Happens to Blue Collar Jobs? 22:20 How 10–15% Job Loss Reshapes Society 24:43 How Civil Unrest Could Unfold 26:27 Sam Altman’s Flip-Flopping on AI 32:38 Is Sam Altman Pro-Humanity? 34:14 Imagining a Future Where Humanity Is Fine 42:24 Will One Superintelligence Rule the World? 46:15 If AGI Is Already Here, What Now? 48:42 Why Human Lived Experience Still Matters 52:56 Why Not Just Hire AGI Instead of People? 55:23 Can We Control AI Smarter Than Us? 59:05 Could AI Decide to Leave the Server? 59:39 The Risk of Models Even Creators Don’t Understand 1:04:53 AI Isn’t Evil But We Need a Plan 1:09:11 Ads 1:11:13 The Symptoms of AGI by 2030 1:14:22 If the US Stops, Will We Become China’s Lapdog? 1:16:45 Should Governments Invest More in AI? 1:17:39 Can an Economy of Entrepreneurs Work? 1:20:59 Do We Need to Join the AI Arms Race? 1:23:54 Will Global Competition Build Better AI? 1:32:46 Ads 1:34:57 Who Will Prioritize Ethical AI? 1:38:44 Whose Economy Works for the Middle Class? 1:42:20 Can Ethical AI Still Be Engaging? 1:47:02 Has This Ever Happened Without Government? 1:52:47 What Absolute Dystopia Looks Like 1:55:58 Are You Optimistic About AI? 1:57:31 Does Happiness Matter More in the AI Age? 2:00:40 The Legacy Mo Gawdat Wants to Leave Enjoyed the episode? Share this link and earn points for every referral – redeem them for exclusive prizes: https://doac-perks.com

Follow Mo: Instagram – https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/4Hv5OK8 Website – https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/GRKeGgO Podcast – https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/CgXWNIe Intelligent Matchmaking: https://emma.love/ Mo’s Film: https://chasingutopiafilm.org/ You can pre-order Mo’s book, ‘Alive: A Human’s Guide to Living in the World of AI’, here: https://link.thediaryofaceo.com/BvCLbtT

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The Deep View: Nvidia bets it has CPU for the AI agent era


Nvidia bets it has the CPU for the AI agent era
It’s official. Nvidia is no longer just a GPU company. Its a full-stack AI company.
The chipmaker may have backed into its plum role as the chief supplier and kingmaker of the AI revolution, but no one can argue that it isn’t seizing the moment. 
On Monday, Nvidia used the annual Computex event in Taiwan to unleash a flurry of announcements that ranged across the AI stack from CPUs to data centers to open models. Here’s our quick analysis of the most important news: 
Vera CPU now designed for agents: Nvidia declared that its new Vera CPU is specifically designed for agentic workloads, including tool use, writing code, and processing data. It claimed that Vera is a new type of CPU that can complete these tasks 1.8x faster than traditional x86 CPUs. It has signed up OpenAI, Anthropic, SpaceXAI, CoreWeave, Lambda, Dell, HPE, Lenovo, and others to use the chips.

New platform for AI factories: The company launched the DSX software platform for designing, simulating, building and operating AI factories. That includes DSX MaxLPS, which optimizes power and cooling to run 40% more GPUs on the same power budget, and DSX OS, which the company is pitching to become the open-source operating system for AI factories

AI supercomputer for Windows desktops: The new DGX Station for Windows can run AI models up to 1 trillion parameters locally for better performance, security, and cost savings. This is aimed at engineers, researchers, developers, and enterprises.

New models for robots and robotaxis: The company announced Cosmos 3 (covered by The Deep View’s Nat Rubio-Licht), a new world model that can work across text, images, video, sound, and actions to power physical AI and robotics. It also announced Alpamayo 2 Super, a new open reasoning model for robotaxis and H2 Plus, an open reference design for humanoid robots that combines hardware, software, and onboard compute.

Vera Rubin hits full production: The next-gen AI infrastructure platform that combines GPUs, CPUs, networking, storage, and security and was unveiled at CES is ramping into full production across 350 factories in 30 countries. It delivers 10x higher agent throughout than the previous generation Grace Blackwell platform, Nvidia claims. Expect this to become the system that will power the world’s largest and most powerful AI factories in the years ahead.
Pay special attention to the CPU news. Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang said, in a statement, “AI agents will be the largest users of computing. Vera is the first CPU designed for that future — built to run agentic AI at hyperscale with extraordinary performance, efficiency and programmability.”
All the announcements have substance, but the Vera CPU announcement was arguable the most significant, as the GPU company pushes even further into the primary tech that has powered the biggest advances of the past 50 years. Thinking of Nvidia as a CPU competitor to Intel and ARM chipmakers such as Apple and Qualcomm still takes some getting used to. It’s likely even more helpful to think of Nvidia as a full-stack AI company. It’s pushing hard into other areas of AI because its platform advantage with CUDA, which put it in the plum role of AI kingmaker, is likely to evaporate in the next several years. Expect the Nvidia we’re seeing at Computex 2026 to be the Nvidia we see from now on — a company reaching into lots of new areas to try to establish a foothold.
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Fortune: Arriana Huffington says she hates the word ‘Balance’

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Arianna Huffington says she hates the word balance: ‘If you can finish everything before you go to sleep, you don’t have an interesting enough job’

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Huffington Post founder Arianna Huffington warns Gen Z: 'If you can finish everything before you go to sleep, you don't have an interesting enough job'

Huffington Post founder Arianna Huffington warns Gen Z: ‘If you can finish everything before you go to sleep, you don’t have an interesting enough job’John Nacion/Variety—Getty Images

Many Gen Z say they want a life outside of work. To firmly shut their laptops at 5 p.m.—and a significant chunk will even quit their jobs if their boss messages them after hours. But Arianna Huffington has a reality check for them: No one with an “interesting job” can do that.


Sam’s Club’s CEO was told she was on the wrong career path-now she leads a $96 billion business

Despite having well-earned flexibility—she’s built a $100 million net worth after co-founding The Huffington Post in 2005, selling it to AOL for $315 million, and now running her next venture, the wellness startup Thrive Global—she still doesn’t have a hard cut-off time. 

“I don’t think there is anybody with an interesting job who can do that,” Huffington tells Fortune. “For you, or me, or most people with interesting jobs, there is never a time when you have a natural ending to the day.” Essentially, the work never really ends. 

It’s why she can’t say what time she finishes the workday. It’s not static. Huffington says she stops when all the “important things” are done, and nearly always has work left over for the next morning.

And actually, she argues, if you can tick off everything on your to-do list and finish up on time every day, then it’s perhaps a sign you’re not challenged enough in your current job. 

“I tell people that if you can finish everything before you go to sleep, you don’t have an interesting enough job,” she cautions. “You should change jobs, because any interesting job means that things are not complete day by day.”

Arianna Huffington says it doesn’t actually matter how many hours you work, as long as you get the right amount of sleep first 

Huffington knows the dangers of overwork better than most. While pulling 18-hour days to build Huffington Post in 2007, she passed out in her home office from sheer exhaustion. She hit her head on her desk on the way down, broke her cheekbone, and woke up in a pool of blood.

But she still hates the word “balance“—and says long hours aren’t the problem. The answer isn’t doing less. It’s doing more: more sleep, more nutrition, more recovery to support that level of intense work.

“It’s important not to think in terms of hours, but in terms of fuel for yourself,” Huffington says. “Have you given yourself the fuel to renew yourself, to recharge yourself, and start again?”

For most people, that starts with sleep. Unless you’re one of the rare people with a genetic mutation that makes you a true “short sleeper,” she says most adults should be aiming for seven to nine hours a night. “If you get your optimal number, that’s critical for how effective you are at work,” Huffington insists. 

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What’s key is starting from a full tank rather than trying to run on empty.

“As long as people get the sleep they need, the exercise they need—whatever that is, walking or strength training, or both—that’s also important,” she explains. “It’s not about how many hours, it’s about how much are you feeding your body and your soul.”

And work, she says, can play a part in that: “Work is also incredibly fulfilling. I love my work. I actually don’t really separate my work from the rest of my life. I’m very blessed to be doing something I love, with people I love, so as long as I take enough time to recharge—be with my family and friends, work out and have time to eat healthy—then I love what I do the rest of the time, working.”

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By Orianna Rosa RoyleAssociate Editor, Success

Orianna Rosa Royle is the Success associate editor at Fortune, overseeing careers, leadership, and company culture coverage. She was previously the senior reporter at Management Today, Britain’s longest-running publication for CEOs. 

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Doge Designer: Trust in Media has fallen to a historic low. At the same time, 𝕏 continues to reach record levels of usage. 𝕏 is now the #1 News App in over 150 countries worldwide.

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Axios: Union Station gets $466 M glow-up

Union Station gets $466M glow-up
 
A National Guard member watches travelers at Union Station in Washington last year. Photo: Andrew Harnik/Getty Images

The Trump administration is spending nearly half a billion dollars to upgrade Washington’s Union Station, Axios’ Cuneyt Dil reports.

The project could become one of President Trump’s most consequential efforts amid a broader push to beautify D.C. in his preferred fashion, given the train hall’s role as the city’s front door.

Trump is pushing a cornucopia of other projects around the nation’s capital — the White House ballroom, the “Triumphal Arch,” repainting the Reflecting Pool, etc. — as the city prepares for a busy summer of events tied to America’s 250th birthday, the World Cup, IndyCar and more.

The Union Station plan includes overall cleanliness and security improvements, plus:

Upgrading the Amtrak lounge, passenger waiting area and “ticketing experience.

Repairing an aging roof, parking garage and other interior zones.

Touching up the “passenger concourse and customer experience” with upgrades like play areas and nursing pods. 

Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy told reporters yesterday that the “special project” aims to make Union Station a “world-class transit hub” (More details).Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy helps students board Amtrak’s “Freedom 250” train at Union Station on May 7. Photo: Heather Diehl/Getty Images It’s unclear how the new Union Station grant meshes with a proposed multibillion-dollar modernization and expansion project.The DOT yesterday criticized the Biden administration’s proposed expansion plan, calling it a “boondoggle” and “far-fetched.” Doug Carr, a key official who helped build New York’s Moynihan Train Hall, still advocates for the broader effort.Carr said in a statement: “This new fundingenables us to invest in the critical ongoing near-term improvements that enhance the existing station experience for millions of travelers, while simultaneously laying the foundation for the future Station Expansion Project.”Go deeper … Get Axios D.C.
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The Big Think: The science and practice of constraints (and why we need them)

The psychological reason complete freedom is a creative dead end

Big Think and David Epstein

May 23, 2026

General Magic invented the cloud, emojis, and virtual keyboards, then collapsed under the weight of its own freedom. Pixar, built on the opposite philosophy, used popsicle sticks Velcroed to a wall to channel its animators’ creativity into masterpieces. The difference? Constraints.

In this interview, David Epstein walks through decades of research exploring why constraints, not freedom, are the engine behind creativity, focus, and breakthrough.

About the speaker: David Epstein is the author of the #1 New York Times bestseller Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized WorldThe Sports Gene, and his new book Inside the Box: How Constraints Make Us Better.

He was the host of Slate’s popular How To! podcast and a science and investigative reporter at ProPublica. Prior, he was a senior writer at Sports Illustrated, where he co-authored the story that revealed Yankees’ third baseman Alex Rodriguez had used steroids. His writing has been honored by many organizations, from the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine to the Society of Professional Journalists and the National Center on Disability and Journalism, and has been included in the Best American Science and Nature Writing anthology.


Timestamps

00:00:18 Chapter 1: General Magic vs. Pixar: Why constraints are necessary.

00:08:02 The concept of “subtractive neglect bias”

00:11:12 Constraints as a creative superpower

00:16:08 Chapter 2: The dangers of too much freedom

00:18:15 Too much freedom and modern anxiety

00:22:05 The maximizing trap

00:25:03 Chapter 3: How to fix bottlenecks

00:28:13 Applying the bottleneck to real work

00:34:22 Chapter 4: Regaining our focus in an attention economy

00:35:28 Self-interruption & reclaiming focus

00:37:07 Discipline and ritual as creative liberation

00:41:37 Chapter 5: The myth of the lone genius

00:43:42 Three case studies: Mendeleev, Einstein, Darwin

00:51:34 The power of problem setters


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Transcript

Below is a transcript of the first five minutes of this video interview. This is a true verbatim transcript that captures the conversation exactly as it happened. If you’d like to read the full transcript while following along with the video, click here.

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